- ABC really did the U.S. electorate a disservice in excluding Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) who has won several progressive, online polls and, despite having less chance at becoming president than I do in becoming a prima ballerina, keeps expanding the conversation and pushing boundaries in a progressive direction. We REALLY need media reform.
- This format was better than most.
- All the candidates in both parties looked tired from their exhausting schedules.
- Any of the Dems is lightyears ahead of the GOP candidates. Paul, Huckabee, and Romney seem to have various degrees of awareness that the American public has turned against their party. The others seem to think they are still the majority party in the U.S., if not in Congress.
From watching the GOP debate I learned:
- Except for Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), none of the GOP presidential candidates has any plans for us to leave Iraq EVER and none except Paul have a clue as to how to deal with terrorism. They have all drunk Bush's kool aid about being in a global war against "Islamofascism." Bulls**t.
- None of the GOP candidates, including Ron Paul, will get us anything close to universal healthcare--and most are in a dream world, fantasizing that Europeans and Canadians, etc. want to trade their healthcare systems for ours. NOT the "reality based" Party.
- None of these old, rich, white men have ANY clue about what working people go through. Only Ron Paul is aware of the looming recession and his libertarian response to it is a non-solution.
- Mitt Romney(R-MA) is an absolute idiot and the others on that stage like him even less than they do Huckabee.
- Fred Thompson(R-TN) is a corpse that doesn't realize he has already died.
- John McCain(R-AZ) is re-fighting the Vietnam War.
Things I learned from watching the Democrats debate:
- None of them were brave enough to rebuke ABC for excluding Kucinich and, thus, further damaging our democracy.
- Obama's strength is not debate, but he made no mistakes and, therefore, should still be getting the Iowa bounce.
- Clinton is desperate.
- Bill Richardson (D-NM) is no longer running for president, but applying for a job in someone's cabinet, Veep or Sec. of State. He knocked hardest on Hillary Clinton's door.
- Richardson also had the best one-liner of the night: "I've negotiated hostage releases that were conducted with more civility!"
- John Edwards (D-NC) has obviously decided to help Obama knock Clinton out of the race before trying to take on Obama directly.
- Barack Obama (D-IL) welcomed the help and responded by helping out Edwards.
Clearly, both Edwards and Obama think they will more easily beat the other with H.R. Clinton out of the way. And their tag-team may have done it. I also think the two were being careful not to strain things between themselves--preparing for one of them to ask the other to be Veep down the road? It sure looked like it.
5 comments:
A couple of comments --
1. I think that Romney is the only candidate to make Hillary a sympathetic character. The more I watch him, the more creepy he seems.
2. Richardson could provide Obama important "experience" credibility as his VP -- plus he's a governor from a Western State.
3. Death isn't becoming on Fred Thompson!
4. I must confess I was glad to see Kucinich out of the debate picture. He may offer a different perspective -- maybe a needed perspective -- but the format, which you liked, requires a small number of people. But that's just my opinion.
5. My sense is that with Hillary out, an interesting race between Obama and Edwards could be set up. Both are better served with her out of the way. The question is -- how long will Richardson stay in.
Those are my thoughts for now -- as a pragmatically liberal Obama supporter!
Bob,
I agree that Richardson would make a great VP or, better yet, secretary of state. Regardless of who ends up as the Democratic nominee (and, hopefully, winner of the election), I would hope that Richardson ends up in the next administration's cabinet.
Bob, there were 6 people in the GOP debate and the format worked just fine, so there is no reason it could not have worked for the Dems with 5 people (Kucinich included) instead of 4. In fact, Kucinich is liberal enough that he could've made Obama and Edwards look more centrist to independents.
I think Thompson is creepy enough to make Hillary look sympathetic, too. In fact, I think any of our candidates can beat any of theirs: but with Clinton it will be close enough that they could steal it through tactics like in FL in '00 or, more subtly, Ohio in '04. Obama or Edwards wins more easily--and with Obama, apparently, the youth turn out who will not vote for any of the GOP candidates except Ron Paul--and he won't win the nomination.
Michael,
It is true that there were more candidates in the GOP debate, but that situation is much more volatile. In many ways Richardson was there for -- it seems -- comic relief. I think he's a great leader, but this is a three way race and I'm not sure Kucinich or Richardson adds much to it. And the GOP debate excluded Hunter and someone else -- who's left?
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